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Third Time Lucky

2/28/2012

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Two weeks ago, a collector emailed to ask if I had seen the Turks on John Howard's site.  I had not....but the minute I saw them, my heart plummeted. I had not been quick enough or vigilant enough. The little spill vase, with a Turk to either side of the prettiest trumpet spill, was just delicious. But the collector has seen it first. I have to be fair. So, I replied that the figure was quite lovely and that she should buy it.
Trumpet spills can be a bit overwhelming, but this little baby comes together perfectly. And the colors are so pretty. Trumpet spills with Turks are really quite rare. I have only three in my archive.  The one below is a bit of a sore point. I didn't buy it when it came on the market a LONG time ago because my husband didn't like the trumpet. It was in Jonathan Horne's stock, and from there it quickly moved to a happy home.

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I have waited and waited....and then I was pipped at the post this month!  I gritted my teeth and got on with work. At moments like this, I tell myself "no-one is dead." That puts my petty peeve in context! And I was really pleased that the figure had a good home, and I would enjoy it by proxy, so to speak. And then the collector emailed to tell me that she had rejected the group because there was something missing from the base. 

Look carefully at the base. There is a dark patch at the man's feet. If you compare it to the second example, you can see that a little leaf might have been in that spot--and John was, of course, quick to tell me about that loss. The loss of a leaf is no big deal--especially when the whole rest of the figure is in original condition. Some naughty child picked the leaf off the base, and a kitchen-table restorer dabbed some gunk on the spot.

So third time lucky. I POUNCED on John's spill vase--and I am sure that it wouldn't have lasted long. The best things are worth waiting for, and perhaps my husband was right....for once! After all, John's vase has a far prettier spill that the one I first coveted.

By the way, both these spill vases were both made by the same pot bank. Look at the flowers on the bases. Big flowers of exactly that form occur repeatedly on a Group of figures that Pat Halfpenny dubbed the "Patriotic Group."  Pat chose that name because the figures often have red, white, and blue swirls on their bases.  In any event, the flower that you see on both examples is very specific to the Patriotic Group, and its presence confirms the attribution.
 
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Silk link
3/4/2012 02:13:07 am

I've been wandering around your site, and I noticed that you often email eBay sellers that the item they have listed as antique /original is actually a recent reproduction. I understand your frustration when the seller doesn't change the listing.

On the other hand, I know a dealer who brags about the great deals he gets on various auction and sales sites by trolling for recent listings of probably genuine items being sold by someone who obviously doesn't know for sure what he has, based on the wishy-washy "I've been told/believe that it's genuine" type wording in the description, and then he emails them presenting himself as an expert with references which he knows the seller doesn't have time or the means to check, tells them it's definitely a fake, and waits to see if the seller accepts his advice and changes the description, thereby eliminating some of the potential bidders. He is then often able to pick up possibly valuable items at a ridiculous repro price. Whether it turns out to be repro or genuine, he benefits.

Auctions are "buyer beware". But they have to be "seller be wary", too. So don't be too frustrated when sellers ignore your emails. They don't know who you are or what your motives are. For all they know, it's possible you just want the item at a bargain price.

Silk

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Silk link
3/4/2012 02:23:51 am

Ack! I just read that over! Please understand I'm NOT accusing you of attempting to drive prices down! Having roamed your site I think you are trustworthy. I'm just playing devil's advocate for the sellers, explaining their reluctance to take you at your word. Perhaps instead of referencing your book, which sellers do not have available, you might point them to this site.

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Myrna Schkolne
3/4/2012 03:09:07 am

Hello Silk--and I assume this is not your real name,
How nice to know you think I am trustworthy.

Actually, I don't usually reference my book when contacting eBay sellers. I generally point sellers to my site, and to the REPROS page in particular. I will go to infinite pains to explain why an item is not right--and a seller can always block me from bidding, with my blessing, if he believes there is a conflict of interest.

I am sure that there may be the odd buyer trying to beat a seller down. But I believe there are far, far more sellers with inaccurately described merchandise. My task is to look out for collectors--and along the way I try to help well-intentioned sellers who are making mistakes out of ignorance. Despite your advice, I will continue to be annoyed when sellers ignore me. I am always able to document my case. I don't suck things out of thin air. A seller who does not heed my advice is deliberately choosing to look the other way. Fortunately, there are not too many of them!

Myrna




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